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Lasagne and leadership What's in here?"What do making a lasagne and leadership have in common?" That's a topic I can really discuss with anyone who often changes responsibilities in their career.

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And it was especially relevant for me in my final stage before leaving the company.

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Making a lasagne means, in a way,that...you're preparing your legacy.

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You take all the ingredients — the team, the strategy is sound,the numbers are right, the results are good.

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And when someone takes on a new role or, so to say,moves to another country,they leave that lasagne to their successor, so to speak.

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And my goal was always to say:"I want to leave something that only needs putting in the oven, like a lasagne,and not have them face a chaos of crises and difficulties right from the start,but rather have some organised things they can deal with.

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Then, perhaps, they could also add their spices,change some ingredients,but overall cook smoothly.

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And for me, the best test was always when I moved countries,if the results the year after I left were even better than the year before,I knew I'd done a good job with my team beforehand.

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And that's how it was, and it gave me great satisfaction.

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To create that foundation and be worthy of that possibility,it's essential to bring the team along,empower them, and above all detach them from oneself.

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How do you do that?For me, leading......and managing a market or a company was never a matter of power.

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I've never been interested in power.I've always seen it as a responsibility,and my role as a leader was that I have a team and must serve it,because we'll only achieve good results if it works properly.

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So for me it was clear that the team is the hero.And, of course, it depends on the situation.

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And I think above all my responsibility was, of course,to drive a team,improve its performance,foster careers,support talent,but also,in difficult situations, to stand clearly at the head of the team.

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And especially in a big company like L'Oréal,when difficult times arrive, the pressure is never far behind.

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And then it was a question of: how can I take as much pressure as possible from my team so that they can keep performing well?

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That is, standing at the head of the team in those situations.

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But when things are going brilliantly and there's something to celebrate,it's the team that should be centre stage.

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That has always been fundamental to me.There were also certain awards that were given to us.

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And it was clear to me it shouldn't be like in many companies,where the CEO walks on stage and takes all the credit.

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Really, the product manager or the marketing director — whoever really led the project — they must be on the stage.

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So he has to shine.And for me, the greatest satisfaction was to be in the background and delight in seeing them up there.

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And to me, leadership has always been something I view as constant building.

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You could compare it to building a house.I've always focused on the foundations,because I thought the stronger I built the base,the taller the building could be.

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That is, the better the foundation,the greater our growth and success.

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Those were some fundamental convictions.